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July 20, 2008

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Cranky Canuck

I don't think you will get to much backlash. Because what you said is true. I have lived in the country for 3 years now and it boggles my brain to no end on how ignorant people can be here.

And I wouldn't excuse someone of making a comment like that "because that don't know any better". That would be the time to make sure they clue in.

My own father made a comment about black people. I tore a new one on him and said that if he ever EVER said something like that again I would not ever discuss anything with him ever again.

He never did that again.

Debbie

No backlash from me; I completely agree with you. I don't understand why the heartbreak of a Traveller child should be any less valid or moving than any other child's. What a terrible thought. The fact that racism against the Travelling community is accepted here when all other forms of racism are (rightly) outlawed, is something about which we should be deeply ashamed. We demonise the travellers and make them responsible for a variety of ills in our society. Sound familiar? When you look at original images of the Irish in the UK early last century and before in, say, Punch, there we are: "no blacks no Irish", and the pics are representative of all that we accuse the travellers of now. http://url.ie/jf6 They are still our scapegoats, despite struggling against pretty terrible conditions much of the time.

Before anyone accuses me of being a woolly middle-class liberal who knows nothing, I should state that I have worked with travellers in various ways over the years. I found them as disparate a group of people as any other. Neither better nor worse but often more interesting. Why then do we only hear about the negative? Writing about good people does not usually make good copy!

I hope you don't mind but here are a couple of links for anyone who wants some info.
http://url.ie/jf4
http://url.ie/jf5

As you may have gathered, this is something I feel strongly about. Well done for bringing it up Debz.

Debbie

le craic

I'm actually shocked that anyone would react with the line "Why didn't you say it was a knacker puppy." - How many people reacted like that, or was it all of them?

I agree with everything you have said about the Irish attitude to the travelling community - it's shameful.

But this is just the tip of the iceberg. It's not just the travelling community that are disadvantaged. Look at the crime ridden areas of the major cities in Ireland. How do we break the cycle of young kids only seeing drug dealing as a way to a future. No education, no prospects and even less now with the "downturn"...

When you have people in this country that have a problem with social and affordable housing in their "private estate" - you have a society that has lost its way - and seriously so.

They have a problem with anyone not on the same rung (as they perceive it) as themselves.

Whoever said to you that clothes to the V de P go to travellers - can you pass on the message that they are very very wrong. Both my sister and mother volunteer in the V de P shop and it's all types of people that shop there, including 4x4 driving, well heeled women who can spot designer wear and then try to bargain down on price.

Why not suggest to them to put in a few hours every week in the shop and see for themselves, maybe then they might have a better appreciation for the work the V de P does.

barry

I have to say, with a heavy heart, that I'm not the least bit surprised. You are correct, we have an ability to be highly selective about our outrage. I would also add that travellers are not the only ones, almost all immigrants (except those from UK?) are bracketed. I saw an incident recently where a fridge was being loaded on to the boat that ferries between the mainland and our island and the driver of the van said to the skipper, will you help me, I'd rather help from an Irishman - the other crew member is a Pole!!

Hypocrisy is alive and well. Remember the recent case of the small farmer who killed a traveller.....

Annie

The same discrimination and disdainful attitude is being shown to foreigners, too.

I agree wholeheartedly with you Deborah.

Dee

It's a sad fact on our little island. It's so difficult to even get through to family members nevermind trying to change the minds of half the country. We'll just have to keep plugging away educating the people around us and hope for the best... anyone any other ideas?

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