Customer Service

April 02, 2008

Doing Business in Ireland

Ireland

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Before moving back to Ireland I was working in the financial customer service centre as a six-sigma team leader for a Fortune Fifty company.  It was hard work, but challenging and motivating.

I received extensive customer service training, much of it common sense, but much of it going deeper than that.  Going through the training initially, meant enacting role plays.  I hate role plays.  I don't mind playing leads in the opera, but role plays with peers is annoying, embarrassing and seemingly pointless, but we did it. 

It wasn't until a few months later when I had to use some of the skills from these role plays with an irate customer did I realise how well the techniques actually worked. Not only that, but they worked outside of the workplace as well.  With family, with friends, with the husband.  Empathy is king. 

Moving back to Ireland was quite a shock then in terms of customer service.  When we first realised we were stranded here without the jobs initially promised to us, we were forced to get temporary work until we figured out what we were doing, if we were staying or going back, or where we would go.  I took up some work at a bank.  It was a job a monkey could do, but it was a meagre 35 hours a week and decent money.  Shock number one.  35 hours = full work week. Wow! I can live with that.  However, as a customer I couldn't understand the concept of a bank closing for lunch in this day and age, or one that didn't open for at least a few hours on Saturday.  Accessible they were not. 

Management at the bank was another notable phenomenon.  Apart from being a bit of an old boys club there was no form of staff motivation.  It's something I have come across again and again in Irish business.  My husband deals with it daily.  Employees are not empowered.  They are not given a pat on the back when they do a good job, but if something goes amiss, you can be sure they'll be hearing about it. 

I interviewed for a job in the bank which would have been similar to what I did in the states only on a much smaller dollar, consumer level.  It was the first time I interviewed for something and didn't get the job.  The guy who did get the job had no experience at all, he was right out of college.  I went straight to the hiring manager and asked why I didn't get the job and was told it was because of my management philosophy.  I didn't understand.  Apparently I had put much too much emphasis on team motivation. 

Bottom line they did not consider their people an asset.  How could anyone be so stupid?  People are the greatest asset a company has.  Treat them right and everything else will follow.  Treat them wrong and you're screwed.  Where do you think unions came from?

But I digress... I had wanted to talk about standards of customer care...

Shock number two.  Employees at the bank answered the phone "X Bank."  They laughed at me when I actually told people who they were talking to and which branch they were ringing.  This still irks me today.  If I call a business line, do not answer "Hello."  I should not have to ask you who you are.

Restaurant service.  Don't get me started.  Refund and return policies. Lousy business hours. Lack of internet presence.  Shitty internet presence.  The list goes on.  And on.  And on.  GRRR!  Ultimately the country is a customer service nightmare.  But we all know that and I do think things are s-l-o-w-l-y getting better. 

So what's new then?

Now I'm a business customer.  Some of you may know from my other blog that I am starting a new business.   As such, I am having to acquire suppliers and services, which involves making numerous inquiries.  As a business person, making new sales and retaining customers, should be two of your top priorities.  This does not seem to be the case in Ireland. 

For ingredient suppliers I contacted no fewer than 20 different companies.  One got back to me. That's a five percent return.  This just blows me away.  There is a downturn in the economy - you'd think companies would be embracing new business, especially in a saturated market like food supply.  I'm here waving my Laser card at them and they don't want my money!?

I know things are more laid back here, but come on!  There's laid back and there's bankrupt.

I've contacted several printers.  I got a quote back from one, four weeks later.  I just can't get over it.  Where is the pride? Where is the professional courtesy? 

With the slowing down of the economy these people are in for a big shock.  Right now price might be the deciding factor for people to go with a company, but soon they will all have similar prices in order to compete in a sluggish market.  Then what?  It's their service that is going to sell the product.  When are they going to cop on?

If all of these companies came around today and gave me a quote lower than the one who came back to me initially, I'd go with the first guy.  If they can't give me a timely quote how can I ensure they will deliver product on time?

I've expressed my frustration about this to lots of people.  "Sure that's the way it is" is the standard response.  WHY? Why does it have to be like this?

The Celtic Tiger is dying fast.  If the Lisbon Treaty goes through the EU will be regulating most of the trade we have previously been able to entice with tax incentives.  We need to differentiate ourselves, we need to adopt sound business practices and apply them.  Customer service on a business or consumer level needs to be a higher priority.  Common professional courtesy needs to be implemented.  If someone contacts you, you get back to them ASAP, even if it's to say you will get them full details later.  This is a no brainer people! 

Rant over. 

I've been ranting a lot lately.  Lighter stuff soon. 

March 20, 2008

Dell Ireland

In a country notorious for crap customer service, the multi-national companies sometimes surprise you with fairly good service.  Not so with Dell Ireland.  I ordered a laptop on January 31st.  Over six weeks later it has not arrived.  My concerns and appeals keep going to random people in Bombay who, while extremely friendly, don't get it and have no desire to help.  Here's how it's gone down.

January 31st - I order computer and select the financing option.  According to the website I should have a credit decision in 48 hours

48 hours later is a Saturday, so I give them the benefit of the doubt and leeway of "business hours" and assume I'll hear Monday.

Monday - nothing.  Well, maybe Tuesday, it is Monday afterall.

Thursday Feb 8th - phone call from Dell.  Excellent.  Late, but relieved to hear from them.  Approval decision?  No, they wanted to verify my address, the same one I had to enter twice during the order process.  Apparently the fact that I'd ordered my previous computer to an old address was confusing.   I asked when I would hear back and I was given the magic 48 hours again.

February 11th - More contact.  This time they wanted a land line number.  I inquired into what was taking so long and got no response.  This was via email.

February 15th - Another email.  Asking for a bank statement and ID.  I send them over. 

February 17th - Phone call saying bank statement not allowed as it's not original.   I had gone to the bank to get a printed one which they stamped with a stamp saying it was an authorized official bank statement.  Not good enough for Dell apparently.   I rang the bank  and was told I couldn't have a n official "blue" statement until month end.  Bugger.  So now the ball is in my court, but still 17 days to get to this point when they initially promised 48 hours!?

March 11th - Bank statement FINALLY arrives and I scan it in and send it over to Dell. 

March 17th - I send an email to the sales rep I've been in contact with expressing my frustration, fully acknowledging that it did take me awhile to get the statement, and wondering what the hell was going on.

March 18th - She sends me paperwork saying lease has been approved and asks me to sign and return the documents.  Finally!  I sign, scan and fax them over.  Get email a few minutes later saying fax was unclear.  I email documents and send original by post.  I also look at Dell website and see that not only is the exact same laptop €20 cheaper, but comes with a free colour upgrade and oh how I wanted the lime green one!  I emailed saying that since I had had to wait so long that I think the least they could do was offer me the colour upgrade.  I'll eat the price differential. 

I then get a phonecall saying the only way to do this is to cancel the order and start the process over.  Hell no.  Just get me my damn computer already.  So I tell her to go ahead as is, because at this point I JUST WANT MY FUCKING COMPUTER!!!!!!  I assume everything is finished and the order has finally been placed. 

March 20th - I get another form letter from Dell with the lease paperwork for me to sign and return, only with different numbers.  WHAT THE FUCK?  I have sent an email wondering, again, what the hell they are up to, and am awaiting the answer.

I just had to vent my frustration somewhere and here it is.  My main issues revolve around the fact that the financial decisions are taken in Dublin, yet someone there has to ring someone in India to tell them to ring me requesting more data.  What a load of bollocks.  If you have any questions about the data needed, the person in India has to go back to the person in Dublin.  Very frustrating.  If I could just talk to the person in Dublin at the get go it would have saved everyone a lot of time and effort. 

Also annoying was the fact that my emails were never confirmed.  I would send the info and never got a response.  Even just a "got it- leave it with me" would have been appreciated.   Initial contact was to confirm details they ALREADY had and again a dubious time period was claimed. 

I understand that the credit process in this country is more drawn out than most, but having worked in finance I know that 48 hours is an entirely reasonable time frame.  Credit approval is usually offered subject to receiving a bank statement and copy of ID. 

Now granted my bank were a pain in the ass during this process, but if you take that time out of the equation it's still taking Dell over three weeks to do something they promise to do in 48 hours!  Absolutely ridiculous, and it's still not resolved.

Rant over.  Now where's my bleeding laptop?